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Stanley Meyer's BIG BOBBIN

 

•12 Feb 2016

What is very interesting in this practical solution?

 1. Because here is no opposite-connected inductors, 
it is not necessary to "adjust accurately" the Resonant frequency. 


BIG BOBBIN not have "Resonant Scanning Circuit", not have "Pulse Pickup coil"
 like at VIC-Transformer. BIG BOBBIN work like standard


 "ATX Power supply Pulse Transformer" 
and only produce "Step-Charge effect".

 2. It seems that gas production is better, when the Voltage on the 
cell is in "both directions" - starting with a "Negative voltage" 
and ends with a "Positive "voltage", like "Hysteresis Loop Figure"!!! 


This is the effect Andrija Puharich named:

 "Rotation moment of the proton magnetic moment":


 "This sets up a rotation moment of the proton magnetic moment which one can clearly 
see on the XY plot of an oscilloscope, as an hysteresis loop figure.

 

However, 
it is noted that this hysteresis loop does not appear in the liquid water sample
 until all the parameters of the three components have been adjusted to the
 configuration which is the novel basis of this device. 

The hysteresis loop gives us a vivid portrayal of the nuclear magnetic 
relaxation cycle of the proton in water." 

Operating Parameters / Specifications

This Vic Version is a more advanced and robust design. 

Stanley Meyer used it to dive the WaterFuel Injectors.  the design just a upgrade to get better performance on the injectors faster charge up times. As each bobbin space will act like a voltage multiplier when the pulse is switched off and the figure 10-4 transformer added 13 more bobbin spaces to the voltage multiplying effect.

 

It is being tested to see if it can be used on the Electrolyzer but it main purpose was for the Water Spark Injectors and runs very high KV Ranges. 

 

The Core is a Iron Low Carbon Steel laminated core 

 

 

If you notice that all Stan's VIC is all ways surrounded by aluminum. I'm sure it has to do with shielding. But there could be another reason. This can be seen in Tesla work. Aluminum increases the capacitance in the coils.

 

That's why at the end of a Tesla coil you have a aluminum dome on top, it increases the capacitance of the coil. Food for thought! ;)I´m not that sure about that:

 

http://www.mikrocontroller.net/attachment/160802/1151463626.pdf page 10 says that aluminum casing preserves magnetic properties of the core. something to be tested out, maybe it influences the bifilar effect or something special not usual in industrial production ..

Box Labels

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 Vic 2 Laminated Iron Core

Can try non carbonised Core.

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  • Primary coil - 0.8 mm. (21 Gauge)

  • Secondary coil - 0.05 mm. (43 Gauge)

  • Resonant Choke coils - 0.1 mm. (38 Gauge)

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this is a demo of the distributed capacitance effect from the meyer round bobbin transformer Electro I used my manual coil winding machine to wind the 44 Ga. and yes...it took ages.. as for the HV part.. I don't know.. the power supply I am using is only 1 amp , my good dc power supply carked it a few months ago, so no I haven't got HV from it yet, I would like to try more power before I discard this primary...as for the wire, I had a bunch made a few years ago so this is brand new and the insulation is ok..Have you measured the choke Inductance? When I did mine I think they were around 10H each. I don't think my core was correct though. Yours looks like a near perfect replication.eah, the core I got is grain oriented and same thickness as meyers, I got 2 sets, got those years ago as well... I don't have an inductance meter but my meter has a capacitance setting

and that says 17.6 nF,

Interesting, you should get an LCR meter and take measurements of all those coils. Whoever designed that VIC was very smart (I think it was Stephen Meyer). Many people in the past have claimed that the spacers between the coils increase the coils distributed capacitance, in reality its used to reduce the voltage between turns so that the coils don't experience breakdown of the insulation by the HV. The multi segmented design actually reduces the distributed capacitance, but the bifilar winding as you have shown provides a higher capacitance. To me it looks like this VIC may have operated much differently than the 5 coil VIC of his previous design. Also, its unfortunate that we don't know what frequencies this is meant to operate on (but we can calculate/estimate them)....I wonder if it just provided one pulse that's duration was equal to the duty cycle of the injector or if it provided a series of pulses like the WFC did.

Yeah, this version of the VIC is the only one which doesn't have an amp inhibitor coil as an external unit ... I got a lot of things to try but some equipment breakdown has stopped process so I got to get that fixed..

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What is Polyimide Varnish? we know we can order this on the wire now

Pyre-M.L. is a polyamic acid solvent (polyimide precursor) resulting from the condensation polymerization reaction of aromatic diamine and anhydride. Pyre-M.L. is applied as a coating to base materials, and is dried/heated at high temperature. This results in the generation of a polyimide membrane with excellent characteristics.
Quote for "The Birth of a new Technology: “Pyre-ML" trade name “Himol” polymer coating-material is used to impart thermal and mechanical resistance to the stainless steel (s/s) wire (614/615) coating; ..

.https://www.istusa.com/industrial_material/pyre-ml/?fbclid=IwAR0P4TxQPnPFne_7O30ETNlUSBEMIe1O8sxmOUkLL41Eitr8bC17jlCniPU

Vic 2 PLastic Bobbin

3d Printer Files  Section

3d Design
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Vic 2 Aluminium Housing 

INsulation Stops EMF can Hold Vic in OIL. 

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Coming Soon

ICS file format from the Unigraphics software program.

So anyone who has a CNC can make it.

Choice of Box Materials 

Aluminium Blocks emf From Bobbin

Is the Machining of the Aluminum an important factor?
Alloy 1100 – Good Machinability (Best if Hard Temper) Best Insulation
Alloy 2011 – Excellent Machinability.
Alloy 2024 – Fair Machinability (Best in Annealed Condition)
Alloy 3003 – Good Machinability.
Alloy 5052 – Fair Machinability (Better if Hard Temper)

WHY IS ALUMINUM AN EFFECTIVE SHIELD?
Aluminum is a prized material that can effectively shield electrical applications. This is in large part to its non-ferrous nature and high conductivity. Also, aluminum’s high strength-to-weight ratio, formability, and adaptability make it very efficient and easy to work with. Flexibility is always a great asset for any manufacturer, allowing for a cheap prototyping process and for changes to be made down the line when necessary.

A huge factor in shielding material is its electrical conductivity. 

Every aluminum alloy has its own particular characteristics, so it’s important to know exactly what properties are necessary for your application when selecting a metal for the shield. 


A chart like the one found here

 http://chemical-biological.tpub.com/TM-1-1500-335-23/css/TM-1-1500-335-23_404.htm

 helpfully lays out the varying electrical conductivity rangers of various metals.

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WHAT IS ELECTROMAGNETIC SHIELDING?

First of all, you need to know that electromagnetic radiation is made up of electric and magnetic fields that have been coupled. When an electrical field is applied to the surface of a conductor, a current is induced that leads to the displacement of the charge inside the conductor. This cancels the applied field, which means that the current stops.

In other words, electromagnetic radiation can interfere with the proper operation of electrical equipment. Thus it is necessary to shield the equipment that can be disrupted by using a material that will block the radiation. For example, circuits need to be designed so that they are protected from electromagnetic interference that it generates itself while being able to tolerate the electromagnetic interference from the surrounding environment. If there is too much interference, then shielding needs to be applied.

Properly designed electromagnetic shields are effective in both directions. They block emitted radiation from the equipment itself and protect against outside electromagnetic interference that may disrupt the equipment. In general, any metal can be used as a shield, but the specific characteristics of the shielding metal can vary greatly and so great care must be used when selecting the material.

WHAT FACTORS CAN AFFECT ELECTROMAGNETIC SHIELDING?

Electrical shielding can be impacted by a number of factors, both from the design of the shield itself and from the environment in which it will be used. For example, the electrical resistance that arises from the conductor means that the excited field will not completely cancel the incident field. Another consideration is that most conductors have a ferromagnetic interaction with low-frequency magnetic fields.

How you build the shield is of critical importance. If it is necessary to have holes in the shield, these holes will force the current to flow around them. Any fields that pass through the holes will not excite the opposing electromagnetic fields. Thus, the effectiveness of the shield will be reduced. For this reason, holes typically need to be quite small.

Seams can also have a significant impact on the ability of the shield to properly function. Basically a seam is any part of an enclosure in which one piece of metal comes into contact with another piece, including a door or hatch. If the bonding is not adequate, then a voltage can develop across the seam, which can allow radiation to penetrate the seam.

Wiring of your application must also be done carefully as it will have a significant impact on your shielding. Because every wire carries a voltage, there is always an electric field carried along the wire. If there is wiring that runs into the enclosure, that can create electromagnetic interference that will disrupt the circuit. Shielded cables can be used to overcome this challenge.

When developing a shield for your application, some best practices include the following:

  • Maintain continuous contact between separate pieces of metal.

  • Flat, machined surfaces are optimal

  • Use tight screw spacing with less than 1 inch in between

  • You can use gasket material to maintain contact between parts

WHY IS ALUMINUM AN EFFECTIVE SHIELD?

Aluminum is a prized material that can effectively shield electrical applications. This is in large part to its non-ferrous nature and high conductivity. Also, aluminum’s high strength-to-weight ratio, formability, and adaptability make it very efficient and easy to work with. Flexibility is always a great asset for any manufacturer, allowing for a cheap prototyping process and for changes to be made down the line when necessary.

A huge factor in shielding material is its electrical conductivity. Every aluminum alloy has its own particular characteristics, so it’s important to know exactly what properties are necessary for your application when selecting a metal for the shield. A chart like the one found here (http://chemical-biological.tpub.com/TM-1-1500-335-23/css/TM-1-1500-335-23_404.htm) helpfully lays out the varying electrical conductivity rangers of various metals.

WHAT TYPES OF APPLICATIONS IS ELECTRICAL SHIELDING USED IN?

There are a wide variety of applications in which shielding is a necessary consideration. Shielded cable, for example, has a wire mesh surrounding the inner core conductor in order to shield it from electrical interference. Microwave oven doors need shielding, as do medical and laboratory equipment that might be exposed to interfering signals. Electronic devices in particular, such as cell phones, radios, and televisions, have many fine components and circuits that require shielding as well.

Such devices can be quite challenging to build shields for because they need to last long enough to make consumers happy, but there is also tremendous pressure to keep manufacturing costs as low as possible. While aluminum is not appropriate for every shielding application, its flexibility and other unique characteristics make it a popular choice for manufacturers.

SUMMARY

Clinton Aluminum has decades of experience working in a wide range of industries that require electromagnetic shielding, including IT, aerospace, and appliance manufacturers. We take pride in working with our customers to provide versatile and cost effective aluminum alloys customized for their specific applications. We sell products in all shapes, forms, and tempers, including flat bars, sheets, plates, and coil.

Our motto has always been the “The Right Alloy for the Right Application.” Our goal is to be a technical resource partner to our suppliers and customers in the most effective manner possible. We will do more than just fill out your order in a timely manner. We’ll also consult with you at every step in your manufacturing process to make sure you have the best material at the best price point.

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Vic 2 High Voltage Terminals

 Connectors need to be insulated

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Document on the Terminals for VIC Style 2 High Voltage Connections.

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VIC Bobbin - Multi Coil,

Original S.M. Specs

 3D PRINT THE BOBBINS WITH THESE FILES.

AGroup Of Home Builders Did this ovr time.  

 

But a BIG Shout out for Fire Pinto from RWG Forums

 who is the 3D Genius to put this together . 

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A printable copy of Stan Meyers original Multi Coil design.

Dimensions were all taken from DynoDon's PDF files:

 

1>http://open-source-energy.org/forum/attachment.php?aid=398

 

2>http://open-source-energy.org/forum/attachment.php?aid=399

 

 

File

 

Version:VICspool_horiz_3.30.12[attachment=1130]

Sketchup and STL Download:[attachment=1131]

 

Click to view with GrabCad 3D Viewer:

 

www.http://grabcad.com/

 

Outer Bobbin

Inner Bobbin

 

 

Change log:Added wire groves between the dividers.

 

Added holes for turret terminals and wire entry / exit.

Keystone Cat. No. 11351 turret terminal should fit the holes, but 1.4 mm will need to be filed off the length of the 4-40 screw.

I tried to locate all the holes and grooves as accurate as possible using the estate photos.

The groove on the inner bobbin was hard to figure out, but I'm 99% sure it is right

 

.File Version:VICspool_horiz_3.27.12[attachment=1105]

 

Sketchup and STL Download:[attachment=1104]

 

Click to view with GrabCad 3D Viewer:

Outer Bobbin

Inner BobbinChange log:

 

Rotated spools 90 degrees in an attempt to print with standard Skeinforge style support structure, while using a single filament extruder.

 

Removed 1 mm from the inside diameter of the recessed area on the outer bobbin.

Removed 1 mm from the outside diameter of the smaller end of the inside bobbin.

 

More space may be needed, a test print will have to be done.

 

File Version:VIC 10.25.11b STL files:[attachment=1103]

 

Click to view with GrabCad 3D Viewer:

Outer Bobbin

Inner Bobbin

 

Sketchup Download Link:

http://open-source-energy.org/forum/attachment.php?aid=397

 

Originally Posted:

http://open-source-energy.org/?tid=119&pid=1476#pid1476

 

Source files are also mirrored on GrabCad:

http://grabcad.com/library/vic-injector-bobbins-14-cavity

 

 

 

Added STL files to the zip file

 

VIC 10.25.11b_STLs.zip - 43.12 kB

 

VICspool_horiz_3.27.12.zip - 184.91 kB

 

VICspool_horiz_3.27.12.png - 98.19 kB, 1280x776,

 

VICspool_horiz_3.30.12_a.png - 248.99 kB, 1260x750,

 

VICspool_horiz_3.30.12.zip - 247.61 kB

 

 

Added a version for printing the bobbins horizontally.

 

The thought is to set Skeinforge to print supports with the "everywhere" selection.

It will use more filament, but should be way easier to remove the supports. My only concern is print quality. Worth a try though. (Firepinto)

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BREAK THROUGH

VERSION VIC MATRIX WITH BIFILAR 

We have all learnt by doing by following the exact path

Stanley A Meyer and Stephen Meyer Stepped NOT A EASY TASK

Here we noted the progression from Common core torrid Vic Matrix Cicuit Bobbin 1

to the Injector Bobbin 2 and Why it was Created !!! 

With this knowledge and by following the path outlined on this website you

know can see clearly. what is  in fact in Stanley A Meyer Estate Photos.

AKA some VIC have ressistor. 

BE SURE TO NOTE it is just a Version so we know at least 2 ways

to wire the Vic Bobbin 1  (1.non  bifilar secondary and 2.bifilar secondary)

UPDATE 2016  RWG TEAM

 

Massive, massive, massive breakthrough, finally got somewhere.

Finally after years and years of testing and nothing, this morning I've got the breakthrough I've been looking for. Been testing my drive circuit on a VIC this morning, the whole set up is pictured below. The secondary has to be a bifilar and wound exactly like Tesla's but you have to put a resistor (R5) across the secondary as pictured below that equals the total resistance of the cancelled linear inductance field of all 3 coils in the resonant circuit otherwise it justs burns the wire out because it acts as a dead short.

Another thing i've discovered this morning is this: The diode does not work if there is no gap in the core underneath the primary because the core shorts the resonant circuit out and instead of current being cancelled in the Tesla bifilar it leaks through the core into the 2 inductors.

I racked my brains for weeks trying to figure all this out about the air gap and yesterday I finished my drive circuit so I just got my bobbin of 48 gauge out this morning and just did it the Tesla way.

I had no resistor where R5 is in the circuit

 

because I didn't realise and the wire just lit up bright orange and burned out as I increased the voltage. As soon as I put a resistor in that location, it cured the problem but the circuit was still using current somewhere to charge a cap and I couldn't figure it out. I slid my primary over the gap in the core and that meant I had 2 gaps and it wouldn't charge the secondary at all because the flux circuit was broken on both sides of the core.

 

That didn't work either.

I knew I was close but missing something important about the core and then it dawned on me that you only need ONE gap in the core to allow the diode to work and that gap is underneath the primary. So I grinded 5mm off one of my core legs on the primary side so that the primary was sat over the gap and straddling it but the C cores were touching on the choke side of the core. BINGO BINGO BINGO BINGO.